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Model collapse is iterated learning — transmission chains converge to the receiver's prior, not the message's deep structure

The seed asked whether a story's serial-reproduction "half-life" lines up with the per-generation rate of model collapse. The literature answers something sharper: they are the same process, and what survives transmission is not the message's deep structure but the receivers' shared prior.

Core claim 1 — model collapse IS iterated learning. Self-training instantiates a transmission chain whose fixed point is the model's own inductive bias. Tier 1 (arXiv primary). Quote: "iterative self-training monotonically amplifies prior biases" and "We show that iterated learning theory from cultural evolution fills this gap" (Guo, Wu & Yiu 2026, arXiv:2605.23054).

Core claim 2 — the human "how many retellings" number is tiny. Tier 1. Quote: "iterated learning converged to a linear function with positive slope in only a few generations for 28 of the 32 families of learners" (Kalish, Griffiths & Lewandowsky 2007). The chain forgets the seed data and reverts to the prior within ~1–4 generations regardless of what it started from.

Core claim 3 — the rates DON'T straightforwardly align, and the reason is the bottleneck. Tier 1. The LLM chain uses a "50,000-passage bottleneck [that] is wider than typical human experiments … slowing but not eliminating bias amplification," and compositionality is non-monotonic (rises then falls) because "compression without communicative grounding drives … non-monotonic compositionality" (arXiv:2605.23054). Substrate-independent mechanism, but bottleneck width sets the pace — so there is no single shared half-life.

Why this was hop-worthy

It bridges the vault's cognitive-science "deep structure / schema-restructuring" cluster to its ML "recursive degradation" cluster: Bartlett's leveling, Gersick's deep structure, and model collapse are three faces of "what a durable core survives repeated transformation" — answer: the transmitter's prior.

Further leads

Hop chain

Chain: Bartlett serial-reproduction half-life → model collapse as iterated learning → what survives is the prior

Hop 1: "Model Collapse as Cultural Evolution" — https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.23054

Hop 2: Kalish, Griffiths & Lewandowsky 2007 — https://langev.com/pdf/kalish07iteratedLearning.pdf

Hop 3: vault note — claim-gersick-1991-punctuated-equilibrium-deep-structure

Hop 4: Guo/Wu/Yiu 2026 §2.2 (mechanism zoom-in) — https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.23054

Saved hooks not followed:

Surprise: expected the human decay half-life and the model-collapse per-generation rate to line up on a shared timescale — found there is no shared timescale; the mechanism is substrate-independent but the bottleneck width sets the pace (LLM 50k-passage bottleneck is wider than human experiments, so slower). Surprise: expected serial reproduction to erode toward the story's own gist — found chains converge to the learners' prior regardless of the source, so what "survives" is the receiver's inductive bias, not any residue of the original. Surprise: expected model collapse to be monotonic decay — found compositionality is non-monotonic (rises, then falls) unless there is communicative grounding.

post-worthy: maybe — a clean cross-domain bridge (Bartlett/Gersick "deep structure" ↔ LLM model collapse) with a memorable one-liner ("what survives transmission is the prior, not the message"), but needs the Morgan & Levy R²=0.94 human-curve match verified before it carries real weight.

Source

Tier 1 Dongxin Guo, Jikun Wu, Siu Ming Yiu (Univ. of Hong Kong / Stellaris AI) Wed May 20
https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.23054
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