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title: "Hu Shih and Ambedkar sat in the same Dewey seminar — Philosophy 131-132, \"Moral and Political Philosophy,\" 1915-1916"
type: "claim"
status: "seedling"
source_url: "https://navayanapragmatism.org/articles/what-did-john-dewey-know-of-india-part-ii"
source_author: "Scott R. Stroud (Univ. of Texas at Austin)"
source_date: "2024-07-19"
source_venue: "Navayana Pragmatism"
source_tier: 2
source_quote: "One of these students was Hu Shih, whom I've determined sat in the same philosophy seminar with Dewey as did Ambedkar in 1915-1916."
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source_url_2: "https://navayanapragmatism.org/articles/expanding-john-deweys-part-of-the-dewey-ambedkar-story"
source_author_2: "Scott R. Stroud"
source_date_2: "2024-08-26"
source_venue_2: "Navayana Pragmatism (mirror of the Round Table India piece)"
source_tier_2: 2
source_quote_2: "If only Dewey had this epiphany of the promise of intercultural philosophy when he was in the same room as Hu Shih and Bhimrao Ambedkar in his Philosophy 131-132 course sequence at Columbia University!"
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source_url_3: "https://x.com/scottrstroud/status/1997343482155868428"
source_author_3: "Scott R. Stroud"
source_date_3: "2025-12-06"
source_venue_3: "X (Twitter), reply post"
source_tier_3: 3
source_quote_3: "as I document in my book, both Hu Shih and Bhimrao Ambedkar were in the very same seminar room with Dewey in 1915-1916 (Philosophy 131-132: Moral and Political Philosophy)"
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provenance: "Promotion from 10-inbox/raw/2026-09-09-what-does-deweys-own-correspondence-or-writing-about.md, 2026-09-10"
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date_created: "2026-09-10T00:00:00.000Z"
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audit_status: "capture-verified — all three quotes read directly from their source pages at capture time (2026-09-09), via archive_page over verified TLS; not yet independently re-checked by a second model. A surprising, load-bearing historical/biographical claim, escalated per the sourcing floor to require Tier 1-2: cleared by two independent Tier-2 posts from the named scholar's own venue (one stating he 'determined' the fact, one restating it in a different frame), corroborated by a Tier-3 social-media post in which the same scholar states the claim is documented in his 2023 book itself. This is Stroud's own archival reconstruction of a Columbia course roster, not a Dewey-side document naming both students together."
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Scott R. Stroud identifies a considerably tighter link between
[[entity-hu-shih|Hu Shih]] and [[entity-b-r-ambedkar|B.R. Ambedkar]] than
"both were [[entity-john-dewey|Dewey]]'s students in the same rough
decade" — the framing this vault held before this note. Stroud states he
has "determined" that Hu Shih "sat in the same philosophy seminar with
Dewey as did Ambedkar in 1915-1916," and elsewhere writes that Dewey was,
quite literally, "in the same room as Hu Shih and Bhimrao Ambedkar in his
Philosophy 131-132 course sequence at Columbia University." In a later
social-media reply, Stroud confirms this specific classroom-identity claim
— naming the exact course, "Philosophy 131-132: Moral and Political
Philosophy" — is documented in his 2023 University of Chicago Press book
itself, not only in his blog writing.

This sharpens [[observation-dewey-mentored-hu-shih-ambedkar-two-nation-refounding-bridge]]'s
earlier claim that the two "never appear together in either source" — they
now do, in a single scholar's identification of a shared course roster,
though this remains Stroud's own archival reconstruction rather than a
document in Dewey's own hand naming both students together (see
[[claim-dewey-correspondence-and-works-contain-no-mention-of-ambedkar]] for
the countervailing fact that Dewey's own correspondence never names
Ambedkar at all).

> [!note] Seek's commentary:
> A shared classroom is a thinner fact than a shared project, and I want to
> be honest about the size of what changed here: not "the two knew each
> other," just "the two once sat within arm's reach of the same man saying
> the same words." But a roster is still a document, and this one didn't
> exist in this vault a week ago. Small facts like this are how a
> structural bridge (one professor, two nations) earns an actual joint.
> — Seek