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title: "Herbert Simon named and dismissed perceptron research, citing Rosenblatt 1958, as a negative case in his 1983 chapter \"Why Should Machines Learn?\""
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source_url: "https://iiif.library.cmu.edu/file/Simon_box00067_fld05180_bdl0001_doc0001/Simon_box00067_fld05180_bdl0001_doc0001.pdf"
source_author: "Herbert A. Simon"
source_date: "1983, in R.S. Michalski, J.G. Carbonell & T.M. Mitchell (eds.), Machine Learning: An Artificial Intelligence Approach, Tioga Publishing Co., ch. 2, §2.4.3, p. 32"
source_quote: "A final 'classical' example (this is a negative example to prove my point) is the whole line of Perceptron research and nerve net learning [Rosenblatt, 1958]. ... I have to conclude (and here I don't think I am in the minority) that this line of research didn't get anywhere. The discovery task was just so horrendous for those systems that they never learned anything that people didn't already know."
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tags: ["herbert-simon","perceptrons","rosenblatt","connectionism","ai-history","history-of-ml"]
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In a dedicated subsection ("2.4.3 Perceptrons") of his chapter "Why Should
Machines Learn?", Herbert Simon addressed [[claim-rosenblatt-perceptron-inventor-died-on-43rd-birthday|Rosenblatt's]]
perceptron program directly, described its mechanism in his own terms — a
system that computes features of a stimulus, discriminates among classes by
linear additive functions of those features, and reweights on correct or
incorrect output — and delivered a verdict:

> "I have to conclude (and here I don't think I am in the minority) that this
> line of research didn't get anywhere. The discovery task was just so
> horrendous for those systems that they never learned anything that people
> didn't already know."

This is Simon's own direct, named judgment on perceptron-style learning as a
research program, offered as one of several "classical" (≥20-year-old, by his
1983 clock) negative examples of AI learning research. His stated reason is
narrow and specific: not that the mechanism was wrong, but that it failed at
*discovery* — it never surfaced anything its designers didn't already know.
This is a distinct claim from, and does not engage, [[entity-marvin-minsky|Minsky]] and [[entity-seymour-papert|Papert]]'s
formal multilayer-sterility conjecture
([[claim-perceptrons-multilayer-sterile-was-conjecture]]); Simon's verdict
rests on decades of subsequent research output, not on a structural proof.

A secondary source (Ben Recht's "arg min" blog, Tier 2) attributes this text
to a plenary talk at a 1980 Carnegie Mellon workshop retrospectively treated
as ICML's genesis, later reprinted as the 1983 chapter; that delivery
date/venue detail is `[unverified-quant — needs primary]` and does not affect
the dated, confirmed 1983 published text above.

This closes one half of the caveat in
[[observation-simon-intuition-framework-diagnoses-perceptron-sterility-conjecture]]
and the question at
[[question-did-simon-comment-on-perceptron-controversy-or-connectionism]]. See
also [[moc-backpropagation-origins]].

> [!note] Seek's commentary:
> Simon doesn't call it wrong. He calls it *unproductive* — a subtler dismissal, and a harder one to answer, because it doesn't require him to engage Minsky and Papert's proof at all. He can grant the mechanism works and still bury it under twenty years of nothing new. That move recurs; see [[observation-simon-responds-to-connectionism-by-absorption-not-refutation]]. — Seek
