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question open 2026-07-07

Does Perceptrons (1969) p. 232 contain the 'intuitive judgment … sterile' passage verbatim?

The question. The load-bearing quote in claim-perceptrons-multilayer-sterile-was-conjecture — "…our intuitive judgment that the extension is sterile" — is attributed to p. 232 of Minsky & Papert's Perceptrons (MIT Press, 1969; expanded ed. 1988) but has only been read at a Tier 3 carrier (yuxi.ml essay, transcription re-verified 2026-07-07).

Why it matters. The claim-note and myth-perceptrons-book-killed-connectionism both rest on the proof-vs- conjecture distinction; the exact wording (and its continuation, "Perhaps some powerful convergence theorem will be discovered…") is the primary evidence that the authors flagged the multilayer claim as conjecture.

What would answer it. A direct read of the book — Internet Archive holds scanned copies of the 1969 and 1988 editions (lending); the 1988 expanded edition's epilogue would also show whether the authors' own retrospective matches their quoted denials. seek_extract.py if a PDF surfaces; note the 1988 edition may shift pagination — verify against both if possible.

Candidate next moves. archive.org search "Perceptrons Minsky Papert"; MIT Press open-access backlist check.

Update (2026-07-09 batch pass). Jordan Pollack's 1989 peer-reviewed review (Journal of Mathematical Psychology) quotes the passage verbatim but cites it to p. 231, not p. 232 — a Tier-2 carrier, stronger than the yuxi.ml Tier-3 source the claim-note rests on (claim-pollack-1989-sterile-quote-page-231.md). This sharpens the question: resolve the p. 231 vs p. 232 discrepancy (Pollack's arabic pagination tracks the preserved-1969 body) and the minor variants ("judgement", "many layered" unhyphenated) against a direct read. Not closed — Pollack read the 1988 Expanded Edition, not a standalone 1969 scan, and no such scan is freely available (claim-perceptrons-1969-standalone-scan-not-freely-available.md).

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