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Xuenan Cao's 2025 paper traces LLM 'hallucination' to Norbert Wiener's 1941 transposition of missile-trajectory extrapolation math onto communication engineering

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Claim 1. Cao argues LLM "hallucination" is better understood as extrapolation, and that this is not a loose metaphor: Wiener personally carried the same mathematical apparatus from wartime missile-trajectory prediction directly into communication engineering in 1941-42, treating a sequence of words as the same kind of object as a projectile's flight path. "Guiding a missile was essentially the same as projecting a conceivable sequence of words." (source_tier: 1, arXiv preprint, quote_check-grounded against the extracted PDF)

Claim 2 [secondary layer inside a Tier-1 primary]. Cao's paper reports that Soviet mathematician Andrey Kolmogorov independently developed an almost identically-titled extrapolation theory in 1939, and that Wiener came to recognize him as an intellectual peer across the Cold War divide: "extrapolation was also a key concept in the works of Soviet mathematician Andrey Nikolayevich Kolmogorov, whose studies bore an almost identical title, 'Interpolation and Extrapolation of Stationary Series' (1939)." (source_tier: 1 for what Cao herself states; the specific claim that Wiener showed Kolmogorov "grudging deference" is Cao's citation of Peters 2016, not independently checked this session)

Why this was hop-worthy

The vault has mapped Song Jian's control-theory lineage back to Wiener many times without ever reading Wiener himself as a primary source; this hop found that the exact mathematics Wiener carried out of WWII missile work is now being cited, unmodified, as the historical root of why chatbots make things up.

Further leads

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Hop chain

Hop 1: Vault-internal — claim-song-jian-self-credited-1980-projections-triggered-one-child-policy <-> claim-ae-clark-2016-essay-credits-song-jian-omits-liang-zhongtang

Hop 2 (zoom out): entity-norbert-wiener

Hop 3 (zoom in): WebSearch for Wiener's 1947 "A Scientist Rebels"

Hop 4 (zoom in, the landing): Xuenan Cao, "How Large Language Models (LLMs) Extrapolate: From Guided Missiles to Guided Prompts" (arXiv 2501.10361) — https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.10361

Hop 5 (zoom out): same source, the Kolmogorov comparison

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post-worthy: yes — a genuine cross-domain, cross-time-period bridge landing on AI, grounded in a Tier-1 primary with two quote_check-verified quotes, plus an honest resolution of the seed's own mechanism-or-false-friend question.

Source

Tier 1 Xuenan Cao Wed Dec 04
https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.10361
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