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Does ChainQueen (2019) or Bolliger et al. (2025) — or the wider differentiable-physics/robotics literature around them — ever name Linnainmaa, Griewank, or Speelpenning directly, or does the inheritance route entirely through JAX/TensorFlow with the founding names erased?

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Capture: Does ChainQueen, Bolliger et al., or their kin papers ever name Linnainmaa, Griewank, or Speelpenning?

Method note: this capture resolves a specific open lead, not a fresh topic. The vault's two existing claim-notes on ChainQueen and Bolliger et al. (claim-chainqueen-differentiates-mpm-via-linnainmaas-reverse-mode-technique, claim-bolliger-2025-second-independent-paper-confirms-standing-differentiable-mpm-technique) each already state, as an unchecked lead, that neither paper names Linnainmaa, Griewank, or any numerical-analysis AD source. Both PDFs were re-fetched via extract_pdf (both TLS-verified) and their full reference lists read end to end — 34 entries for ChainQueen, 20 for Bolliger et al. — to convert that lead into a checked claim. A third paper, DiffTaichi (Hu et al., ICLR 2020), was added because it is not a distant member of "the wider literature": it shares ChainQueen's first author (Yuanming Hu), cites ChainQueen directly, and is the direct technical ancestor of the Taichi-language ecosystem ChainQueen's footnote credits. Reading it changed the answer from a clean "erased" to a more exact one.

Claim: ChainQueen's (2019) full 34-item reference list contains no citation of Linnainmaa, Griewank, Speelpenning, Werbos, Rumelhart, or any dedicated automatic-differentiation source

Claim type: historical/bibliographic (negative-existence), load-bearing given it is surprising. Tier 1 — direct read of the primary document, author-hosted PDF.

ChainQueen's reference list runs from [1] (Todorov, Erez & Tassa's MuJoCo paper) to [34] (Fang, Hu, Hu & Jiang on adaptive time stepping), closing with the Sanchez-Gonzalez et al. 2018 ICML paper on graph-network physics engines as item [34]: "A. Sanchez-Gonzalez, N. Heess, J. T. Springenberg, J. Merel, M. Riedmiller, R. Hadsell, and P. Battaglia, 'Graph networks as learnable physics engines for inference and control,' in ICML, 2018." Every entry was read; none names Seppo Linnainmaa, Andreas Griewank, Bert Speelpenning, Paul Werbos, or Rumelhart/Hinton/Williams, and none cites a dedicated automatic-differentiation text (e.g. Griewank & Walther's Evaluating Derivatives). The paper's own autodiff tooling — TensorFlow, used for its reference implementation and benchmarked against the CUDA version in Table II — is used and discussed in-text but is not even given its own citation; it enters the paper as infrastructure, not as attributed prior work. This confirms, exhaustively rather than as a lead, what claim-chainqueen-differentiates-mpm-via-linnainmaas-reverse-mode-technique already flagged as unchecked.

Claim: Bolliger et al.'s (2025) reference list likewise omits Linnainmaa, Griewank, and Speelpenning; the paper names its AD inheritance explicitly as JAX and cites ChainQueen directly as prior art

Claim type: historical/bibliographic (negative-existence) plus a positive citation-chain fact. Tier 1 — direct read of the primary document, arXiv preprint.

Bolliger, Fadini, Bambach & Rupenyan's 20-item reference list (ending at [20], Sánchez-Banderas & Otaduy 2018 on strain-rate dissipation) likewise contains no citation of Linnainmaa, Griewank, or Speelpenning. The paper is explicit about where its automatic differentiation comes from: "several computational frameworks have been developed to compute the gradients algorithmically through automatic differentiation (AD)," naming PyTorch, TensorFlow, Taichi-Lang, and JAX as the candidate libraries, before stating "Among these AD alternatives, we decided to use JAX [16] because it is mature, under active development, and can be easily integrated with other machine learning libraries." Reference [16] is the JAX GitHub/paper (Bradbury et al., 2018) — not a numerical-analysis AD source. Reference [12] is ChainQueen itself, cited directly as one of two prior differentiable-MPM simulators ("[12], [13] introduce differentiable MPM simulators"), making this the paper's own documented link back to ChainQueen — a citation chain that runs MPM-paper to MPM-paper and library-to-library, never touching the 1976/1980s AD-discovery literature.

Claim: DiffTaichi (Hu et al., ICLR 2020) — ChainQueen's direct kin paper, sharing its first author and citing it by name — explicitly names Griewank (and Wengert) as the AD lineage, but even there Linnainmaa and Speelpenning go unnamed

Claim type: historical/bibliographic, both positive (Griewank is named) and negative (Linnainmaa/Speelpenning are not). Tier 1 — direct read of the primary document, arXiv preprint published as an ICLR 2020 conference paper.

DiffTaichi is not an arbitrary data point in "the wider literature": it is written by Yuanming Hu (ChainQueen's first author) and collaborators, explicitly follows "ChainQueen's implementation (Hu et al., 2019b)" for its own differentiable-MPM demo, and sits in the same Taichi-language lineage ChainQueen's own footnote credits ("Based [on] the Taichi [30] open source computer graphics library"). Unlike ChainQueen and Bolliger et al., DiffTaichi's design-decision section names a specific AD-tradition figure by name, twice: "Source Code Transformation (SCT) (Griewank & Walther, 2008) and Tracing (Wengert, 1964) are common choices when designing AD systems," and later, describing its own reverse-mode compiler pass, "which it achieves with reverse-mode AD, using a standard source code transformation (Griewank & Walther, 2008)." The full bibliography entry reads: "Andreas Griewank and Andrea Walther. Evaluating derivatives: principles and techniques of algorithmic differentiation, volume 105. Siam, 2008." The same bibliography separately credits R. E. Wengert's 1964 CACM paper by name for the tracing/tape alternative — consistent with claim-wengert-list-named-for-forward-mode-inventor's pattern of the forward-mode originator retaining citation life. Seppo Linnainmaa and Bert Speelpenning do not appear anywhere in DiffTaichi's bibliography (34 entries read in full) or body text, despite the paper implementing exactly the reverse-mode operation Linnainmaa's 1976 algorithm describes.

Claim: Across this specific cluster, the inheritance route runs predominantly through modern AD frameworks with founding names erased — but the erasure is not uniform, and Griewank's name travels further into this literature than Linnainmaa's or Speelpenning's does

Claim type: synthesis of the three claims above; historical, Tier 1 (rests entirely on the three direct primary reads above, no new source).

The direct answer to the core question, for the specific papers named: ChainQueen and Bolliger et al. both name their AD inheritance only as a software library (TensorFlow; JAX) and cite no AD-discovery figure. But "the wider differentiable-physics/robotics literature around them" is not uniform on this point — DiffTaichi, the closest possible kin paper (same lead author, direct citation of ChainQueen), does name Andreas Griewank, twice, via the standard textbook citation for source-code-transformation AD. What does not happen, in any of the three papers read in full, is a citation of Seppo Linnainmaa or Bert Speelpenning by name. This sharpens rather than overturns the vault's existing finding in claim-speelpenning-1980-does-not-cite-linnainmaa that Griewank's name circulates in AD-adjacent literature in a way Linnainmaa's does not: here, in a cluster of papers computing the literal operation Linnainmaa's 1976 algorithm first formalized, Griewank surfaces as the attributed textbook reference for the technique, while the man who first described that technique, and the man who first built it in software, remain unnamed even in the one paper of the three that cites anyone from the AD-discovery tradition at all.

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written by claude-sonnet-5 · batch run, 2026-10-05, closing the exhaustive-reference-list lead logged (but not checked) in 10-inbox/raw/2026-09-27-recovered-capture-does-a-genuine-mechanism-connect-linnainmaas-fb616a.md: 'whether any paper in this lineage ever cites Linnainmaa/Griewank/Speelpenning by name, not exhaustively searched' · raw markdown