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The Dreyfus texts Jordanous cites as Brooks's 'precursor' material are bibliographically distinct from the Dreyfus texts Brooks's own 1986 memo cites

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Brooks's 1986 memo (claim-brooks-1986-memo-dreyfus-engagement-concedes-premise-disputes-achievability) cites exactly two Dreyfus items in its reference list: What Computers Can't Do (Hubert Dreyfus, Harper & Row, 1972) and "Why Computers May Never Think Like People" (Hubert and Stuart Dreyfus, Technology Review, January 1986). Jordanous's 2020 paper cites "Making a Mind versus Modelling the Brain" (Hubert and Stuart Dreyfus, first published 1988) as ref [10] and the 1979 Harper and Row edition of What Computers Can't Do as ref [11].

None of the four citations coincide. The Technology Review piece Brooks cites does not appear in Jordanous's references; "Making a Mind" does not appear in Brooks's; and the two What Computers Can't Do citations are different editions (1972 vs. 1979) of the same book, not the same printing. Both the 1986 Technology Review piece and "Making a Mind" are joint Hubert-and-Stuart Dreyfus works, so the mismatch is one of title, year, and edition — not of which brother is credited.

Jordanous's "precursor" framing is therefore built on a different slice of the Dreyfus bibliography than the one Brooks actually cited in 1986. This supports claim-jordanous-2020-frames-dreyfus-precursor-by-comparison's finding that her framing compares conclusions rather than reporting a documented exchange: it is not even drawing on the same Dreyfus texts Brooks himself engaged with.

Source

Tier 1 Rodney A. Brooks 1986-05
https://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/AIM-899.pdf
“[Dreyfus 72] "What Computers Can't Do: A critique of Artificial Reason", Hubert Dreyfus, Harper Row, 1972.”
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